In Conversation with UX Magazine brings you a discussion with Alan Cooper, father of Visual Basic, creator of personas, and co-founder of Cooper.

We talk about skateboarding, fatherhood, design, ethics, Cooper's recent acquisition of Catalyst, and the responsibility that comes with getting our seat at the table. Alan also makes mention of a conversation he and I had for Natchcast about food and agriculture. So if you want some more Alan, you'll find it below.

Also, we'd be remiss if we didn't share some Hombre McSteez: